{"id":35382,"date":"2023-05-19T06:00:00","date_gmt":"2023-05-19T11:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/freshcup.com\/?p=35382"},"modified":"2023-05-11T12:08:09","modified_gmt":"2023-05-11T17:08:09","slug":"the-good-bad-and-ugly-of-automation-key-takeaways-from-coffee-fest-new-york","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/freshcup.com\/the-good-bad-and-ugly-of-automation-key-takeaways-from-coffee-fest-new-york\/","title":{"rendered":"The Good, Bad, and Ugly of Automation: Key Takeaways From Coffee Fest New York"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Perhaps the most fascinating\u2014and potentially divisive\u2014panel Fresh Cup hosted at Coffee Fest New York, which took place in March of 2023, was about automation.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Automation in the coffee industry has drawn much attention, both positive and negative. We asked our panelists questions like:&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul>\n<li>Do machines actually allow baristas to interact more meaningfully with customers?&nbsp;<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Can automation improve quality and accuracy in brewing?&nbsp;<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Where does it make sense to implement automation? And where are we intentionally harming people who work for us?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>We couldn&#8217;t have asked for a more stellar panel, including:&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Nigel<\/strong> <strong>Price, <\/strong>Founder of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dripcoffeenyc.com\/\">drip coffee makers<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In 2018, Nigel began hosting pop-ups across Brooklyn and Manhattan as a coffee cart. In January 2020, drip coffee makers opened its first brick-and-mortar location; three years later, there are four locations throughout New York City.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Anne Mercer, <\/strong>Co-Founder of <a href=\"https:\/\/victuscoffee.com\/\">Victus Coffee<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Victus Coffee is a specialty coffee roasting company based in West Hartford, Conn. She also handles communications, green coffee operations, and more for J.Ren\u00e9 Coffee Roasters, also in West Hartford. She&#8217;s also a freelance writer in the specialty coffee space and has covered stories on automation for us at Fresh Cup.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Stephen Welch, <\/strong>Coffee Development Manager, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pret.com\/en-US\">Pret A Manger<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Stephen has worked in the coffee industry for over a decade in various retail, wholesale, and importing roles. He currently manages the Coffee and Beverage program for Pret \u00e1 Manger North America.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Here are key insights from our discussion:&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Automation Doesn&#8217;t Eliminate The Need For Human Input<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m all for automation, as long as it doesn&#8217;t impact the quality of the coffee itself,&#8221; says Price. He notes that people are still vital: <strong>you can go into a coffee shop with all the best equipment and still get bad coffee. <\/strong>Baristas still have to know what makes a coffee taste great and how to use the machines before them to achieve the desired outcome\u2014business owners can&#8217;t just put in machines and call it a day.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mercer says baristas are taught how to make decisions about brewing, like what grind setting to use and how to set coffee-to-water ratios. &#8220;Automation helps you do your job rather than trying to replace you.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>At Victus, Mercer focused on two pieces of equipment: the <a href=\"https:\/\/marcobeveragesystems.com\/sp9-part-marcos-new-range-coffee-brewers\/\">Marco SP 9<\/a> automatic pour over machines and the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=VjsKTdPHKaY\">ACE brewer by Brew Bot<\/a> for cold brew. &#8220;And when we approached this whole project, we had three things in mind: the barista experience, the customer experience, and price. From a barista&#8217;s experience, they still need to dial in, and <strong>these technologies do not take away from the coffee knowledge that they&#8217;ve learned and use every day.<\/strong>&#8221;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>One audience member asked about the perception of value with automation: even if barista training and education is high in stores with lots of automation, will customers devalue their work? Welch says <strong>upgrading their machinery improved customer perception<\/strong> (they switched from Cimbali machines to Eversys systems). He does note you might still be fighting long-held ideas about where quality comes from, but that&#8217;s a challenge he&#8217;s excited to meet.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Automation Can Help Caf\u00e9s Focus On What&#8217;s Important<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>A common argument for automation is that baristas can focus more on engaging with customers\u2014but this argument is even more multi-faceted. Automation doesn&#8217;t just free up baristas; new gadgets and technologies can be a focal point of a cafe and a topic of discussion.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mercer had two of her employees in the audience who could attest to this fact: &#8220;Customers can ask us, &#8216;What is that? What does that do? Why do you use it?&#8217; I&#8217;ve got two of our baristas here in the front row. And they can attest to this, too: <strong>automation allows them to have that conversation without detracting from their work. <\/strong>We&#8217;ve all been in the position where you&#8217;re making a pour over, and a customer asks all these questions, and you want to answer them\u2014and then next thing you know, you&#8217;ve gone 400 grams over in the water, and the pour over is ruined.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\">\n<p>If you&#8217;re hired at our shop, you&#8217;re gonna learn the ins and outs of specialty coffee\u2014automation isn&#8217;t made to replace that; it is meant to aid in bar flow.<\/p>\n<cite>Anne mercer, Victus Coffee<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Victus Coffee doesn&#8217;t have WiFi, which also influenced Mercer&#8217;s decision to invest in automation\u2014baristas create and curate a more intentional, sit-down experience than some shops that attract remote workers, so finding ways to free up their time was deliberate.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>At drip, Price highlights pour over coffee, so automation on the espresso side helps emphasize pour over coffee without sacrificing espresso quality. &#8220;You have to make those judgment calls based on what you&#8217;re trying to convey to each customer. <strong>I wanted them to know that the pour over is the focal point.<\/strong>&#8221;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Hand Made and Automated Systems Aren&#8217;t Mutually Exclusive<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Even though drip focuses on pour over coffee, Price still serves batch brew. &#8220;<strong>We weren&#8217;t even going to have a batch brewer until maybe a month before we opened the first location. But I didn&#8217;t want to exclude any people who were new to coffee<\/strong>, to anybody who was walking off the street\u2014I didn&#8217;t want anybody in the neighborhood to feel like, &#8216;Oh, this shop is not for us; it&#8217;s for the new people coming into the neighborhood.'&#8221; To go further, Price notes that people are still vital: <em>you can go into a coffee shop with all the best equipment and still get bad coffee<\/em>.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\">\n<p>We weren&#8217;t even going to have a batch brewer until maybe a month before we opened the first location. But I didn&#8217;t want to exclude any people who were new to coffee &#8230; I didn&#8217;t want anybody in the neighborhood to feel like, &#8216;Oh, this shop is not for us&#8217;<\/p>\n<cite>nigel price, drip coffee<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>You&#8217;ve likely read some headlines about robot baristas coming to take over coffee shops\u2014Mercer doesn&#8217;t see that happening. At Victus, baristas are very much involved in setting recipes and making sure their equipment does what it needs to do. &#8220;<strong>If you&#8217;re hired at our shop, you&#8217;re gonna learn the ins and outs of specialty coffee\u2014automation isn&#8217;t made to replace that<\/strong>;<strong> it is meant to aid in bar flow<\/strong>.&#8221; Mercer says baristas are taught how to make decisions about brewing, like what grind setting to use and how to set coffee-to-water ratios. &#8220;Automation helps you do your job rather than trying to replace you.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>At Pret, Welch says baristas are given a holistic education on store operations and processes and are working with automated systems rather than being replaced. <strong>&#8220;All of our baristas, from the second they step into the role, are taught how to control waste, maximize sales, read their shop, look at their daily reports, and understand a P&amp;L sheet.&#8221;&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Automation Is As Just As Much About Support Systems As It Is Equipment<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Welch explained that &#8216;Pret a Manger&#8217; means &#8216;ready to eat&#8217; in French, and the global chain focuses on getting people their items quickly. &#8220;<strong>We have a 120-second standard to get people in and out the door, and we&#8217;re doing 100,000 units weekly. It&#8217;s a relatively wild proposition for me\u2014and I think for anyone\u2014but we can hit that at roughly 75-85% [of the time].<\/strong>&#8221;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pret&#8217;s espresso machines are intricate, and when a device breaks, it requires a different solution than simply using another machine or opting for a quick alternative. &#8220;A lot of the pieces of automation are dedicated computer parts: there are sensors, magnets, volumetrics\u2014<strong>and all of those pieces can break. The more you automate, the more you have failure points in your system<\/strong>. If I&#8217;m making a pour over on the bar, and my kettle isn&#8217;t working, I&#8217;ll grab another one; it&#8217;s a very simple fix.&#8221; Welch says Pret has a dedicated team of technicians that can help troubleshoot problems, which is different from most small coffeeshops that have to rely on third-party services: <strong>a machine going down in a small shop can have a much different (and larger) impact than one at a chain with a dedicated support staff.<\/strong>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For Welch, automation isn&#8217;t just about coffee equipment: <strong>to help get people in and out, Pret has support systems like screens that display drinks for baristas, which gives structure to their workflow.<\/strong> &#8220;They&#8217;ve got a structure to work within. And that&#8217;s huge for me because I always found that when I had structure and that kind of security, I could just keep my head down and grind through my drinks.&#8221;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When Mercer had problems with the ACE brewer, she could quickly check in with the company&#8217;s owner and troubleshoot issues and suggested considering what happens when a machine isn&#8217;t acting the way you want: &#8220;Anytime you&#8217;re considering adding automation, or even an espresso machine, you have to consider what the downtime is. What are their repairs like? And how often does the machine go down?&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Welch adds: &#8220;Do you have a service provider in your area? Is it being contracted out? Will they have to ship your part from Switzerland? <strong>A good rule of thumb I was taught when I was starting was that for any equipment you buy, you should put aside 10% of the cost [of the machine] every year,<\/strong>&#8221; for repairs.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>There Are Still Concerns About What Automation Means For Baristas<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Our panelists can share their experiences and values about balancing automation with baristas&#8217; needs and sense of worth in the workplace, but that doesn&#8217;t eliminate concerns. One audience member noted that switching from a very automated chain shop to a specialty store helped them feel more in tune with their work: &#8220;One of the things I fear with having all this automation is that other baristas, myself included, get into the mindset of, <strong>&#8216;The machine is doing all the work, all I need to do is stand there.&#8217; So it feels like there&#8217;s going to be a downturn in quality. The baristas aren&#8217;t going to care about the product because they&#8217;re not invested in it.<\/strong>&#8221;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\">\n<p>Anytime you&#8217;re considering adding automation, or even an espresso machine, you have to consider what the downtime is. What are their repairs like? And how often does the machine go down?<\/p>\n<cite>Stephen welch, pret a manger<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Welch gave an analogy to summarize his thoughts: &#8220;For me, it&#8217;s the difference between driving an automatic transmission and driving a manual transmission. If I&#8217;m driving automatic, I&#8217;m on the freeway and not paying attention to how fast I&#8217;m going. But if I&#8217;m driving a manual, I&#8217;m hitting the clutch every so often, and I&#8217;m more plugged in, I&#8217;m more attenuated to the experience I&#8217;m having.&#8221;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>He says, &#8220;It comes down to having the right tool for the right job&#8230;<strong>one of the biggest dangers in any sort of work, whether automated or not, is alienation from your final product, where you just feel like my work doesn&#8217;t matter. 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